Zaz

LA Con Report and pictures up

zazreil@aol.com — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:47:10 GMT

Well I had 400 pictures from the convention but I only loaded 66 - my comments on the pictures are as close to a con report as I will ever get. My Camera isn't the best so bear with me and despite the quality I hope they make you smile. The pictures come in 3 sises, thumb nail, 3x5 and full size. The thumb nails are kind of truncated but if you click once on the picture you will get the full picture ~ 3x5 and my notes, Click twice more for full size

These pictures and reports are only on the guests - I met a lot of wonderful fans at the con but since I am not sure how they would feel about having pictures up - they are not included in these photos

enjoy

Supernatural LA 2009 Gallery

Now is a time of Great Rejoicing!

zazreil@aol.com — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:59:43 GMT

Supernatural is renewed for season 5!!!

http://www.airlockalpha.com/news426094.html

and

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/02/cw_signals_its_sticking_around.php

Snoopy dancing begins!

"After School Special" and why it made me wince

zazreil@aol.com — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:27:49 GMT

Though it had a few good moments, in my opinion as a whole, "After School Special" ranks with stinkers like "Bugs" as one of the worst episodes of the Supernatural series, second only in my mind to "Yellow Fever" which, coincidentally, was written by the same writers.

Supernatural has on occasion made some research goofs, like the pronunciation of Samhain or how cell phones work, but in general, they do a decent job of not stretching the audience's ability to suspend disbelief beyond the breaking point. In this episode, however, the writing was so bad that I have to wonder whether Daniel Loflin and Andrew Dabb bothered to do any research at all? Or did they think that just because they went to high school they knew how a high school ran? I come from family of teachers that range from grammar school, high school and special ed, all the way through vocational schools and college, and I cringed through the whole episode.

Columbine, Dunbar, numerous other shooting incidents and student/teacher scandals have caused some major improvements and changes in how the schools work today. These days Dean would need some *really* snazzy credentials, full blown identity theft at least, to pose even as a substitute teacher. Principals are more wary, too, so Dean would have been checked on at least a few times during his first days in the class room by one of the Assistant Principals, if not the Principal or campus security. And teachers are inquisitive; they like to find out information about the new guy in town. Will he keep discipline in his class room, or will behavioral problems spill over into the hall and other class rooms? And let's not forget that a good-looking teacher like Dean would have students and teachers buzzing about him all day.

As for Sam? He wouldn't have escaped his own share of attention as part of the janitorial crew, if for nothing else his height alone. Few things can make a teacher more miserable than a bad janitor. It really behooves teachers to make nice to the janitorial staff, and they do. The making nice nice and subtle bribes would have started almost immediately. So for Sam's teacher not to have recognized him in the end scenes as the tall janitor (who we saw walk directly in front of the teacher at about 9 minutes 50 seconds into the episode) just doesn't ring true.

Next is the whole pivotal mess with the bus. Bus drivers don't always drive the same bus and, as was shown, some one else may be driving it for a special event, so why would a bus driver leave something as personal as a Bible with a lock of his dead son's hair in the glove compartment and risk it being stolen or thrown out? And that whole bit with the road spikes? Egad! Yeah, let's put a whole bus load of innocent children at risk. Ever get a blowout tire while driving at country highway speed? Try four flat tires, then try to keep the bus under control. It is not reasonable that Sam and Dean would have taken that risk with young lives when there were more efficient alternatives. In the time it took the boys to get the road spikes, figure out the route the bus was taking, have the spikes in place in time for the bus without catching any other cars in their trap, they could have driven to the game or the school, gotten in the bus, searched it and burned the hair without anyone ever being the wiser. If nothing else, if they couldn't find the hair they could have stolen the bus and torched it with no one at risk. I mean they talked to Dirk's father during the day, and then they stopped the bus at night, Possibly late night, judging by the deserted road. They had more than enough time to do something more sensible and less risky; without a bus full of hostages/witnesses, never mind a ticked-off ghost with dozens of young bodies to ride. In short, there just had to be some more believable way to insert Sam's "I'm not evil" riff than this.

But given that they stopped the bus full of people, how did Sam immediately know who Dirk was inhabiting? Why did Coach just accept Dean's lame line and sit on his fanny with a busload of students he was responsible for? And why wasn't every kid's face and the Coach's face pressed to the windows watching what was happening? (Probably because if they were, and the Coach saw the gun, he would have been expected to take some action.) Once Coach *heard* the> gunshot he should have done something anyway, like, oh, get the kids to escape out the back, or close the doors!! And you know every kid on that bus has a cell phone to call 911. For that matter, why didn't Dean have everyone evacuate the bus once he couldn't find the hair so that they didn't get possessed? Which brings me to how did the possessed kid get out of the bus without Coach interfering (at first I thought it was the Coach, but with a subsequent viewing it's clear that it was not) and stopping him from going after the crazy men with the guns? No, the kid gets out of the bus with no fuss, no bother, not a sound, so he can surprise Sam and Dean. And how did Dean miraculously figure out that the > hair was in the guy's boot anyway, and not hidden somewhere else in the bus? Actually, why *wasn't* it hidden in the bus, behind a ceiling tile, or between the seat and the wall, or beneath the floor covering; or even split up, one hair here, one hair there? Any of those would have made more logical sense, from the Ghost's point of view at least.

After the whole bus-hijacking-at-gunpoint incident, following the blender and the drowning incident, it hard to believe that the the school was open the next day?!? And that assuming it was open, security was not upped and the staff were not on alert watching for any signs of these two very recognizable crazy guys. Heck, Dean was recognized and the Coach most likely heard the name Winchester as well and reported it to the authorities and to the school staff, and yet with all of that, Sam still manages to casually saunter into the school to talk to his old teacher, who not only is not alarmed but apparently totally oblivious to the events in his own school.

What the writers needed to do was spend more time on developing their story and keeping it consistent and believable. They could have done this by either spending more time on destroying the MotW, or by simplifying that event and and spending more time in the flashbacks. Because the flashbacks did not fit well into the story structure; Sam's were fine but I thought Dean's were disruptive to the flow of the story. I am not going to address whether the characterizations were right or not, I will leave that to the boards to hash out, but instead address how the flashbacks fit into the story flow. In "Something Wicked" the flashbacks were told from Dean's point of view, in "A Very Supernatural Christmas" it was clearly Sam's, as it was in "I Know What You did Last Summer". These previous episodes set up a convention for the series that when there is a close up of the character's face, it is that character remembering the events of the past. In the first flashback it's not clear who is remembering, though from the way it is edited and shot, I would almost guess it was Metallicar!! (On a side note I did think that the slow motion arrival was just gorgeous though, applause to the director.) Still, as the episode continues, it becomes clear that it is Sam's memories that we see and yet how can Sam remember Dean's passionate clinch with Amanda? So the whole structure of the flashbacks is poorly conceived and the writers would have been better off not including the Dean-centric bits at all or take the time to separate them out and show us what triggered Dean's memory and his feelings about them. Or they could have used the flashback time to tell us more about Sam and either his relationship with Dean. Its canon that Sam had a lot of resentment towards his father, but what did he really think of Dean at that time? His teacher said that Sam described Dean as quite a character? What did that mean, it would have been nice to have had that fleshed out more.

I don't wish bad things on anyone so my hope is that Kripke confines Daniel Loflin and Andrew Dabb to writing Ghost-Facer webisodes, until they take some writing classes, some logical thinking classes and learn how to do research.

Edit: After posting last night when I was too tired to adequately edit what I had written, I have to wonder if the writers made my mistake and sent the script to production when they were too tired to really judge their own work. Luckily I have had the chance to go back and with the help of a good friend re-edit and re-post before I suffered too much embarrassment.

Some Chicago Convention pictures

zazreil@aol.com — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:02:14 GMT

I have about a hundred + pictures from the Chicago convention but I only uploaded 18 or so. They are kind of grainy since I was far away and the light was bad, so I had to photoshop a bit. But I think they are still fun to look at. Hope they make you somile

Supernatural Chicago Gallery

SQUEEEE!!!!!!!! Clever Clever Clever Show!!!

zazreil@aol.com — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:12:24 GMT

This was the best! I grew up with a best friend who adored old monster films, especially any vamp film. We would stay up late and watch both the old classics and some of the worst B movies ever made with hosts like Svengoolie and Elvira. Supernatural's "Monster Movie" was so perfect because it captured the mood and the feel of those old films. The lighting, the cuts, not just the big things but the little ones as well. So very very clever.

I loved all the Movie and Pop references. Here are the ones I caught easily
Porky's 2 Gag (Sammy at the end)
The New Raiders (Dean to Sam at the beginning)
Jaws (first meeting with the sherif)
Fearless Vampire Hunters (lederhosen clad hero in one scene- if I remember right)
X-Files (Jamie calls them Mulder and Scully and Dean says "The X-Files is tv. This is real.")
Dracula (shifter)
Wolfman (shifter)
Mummy (shifter)
Frankenstein (shifter's Hero Slaying machine)
Creature from the Black Lagoon (Dean's reference)
Phantom of the Opera (organist in the theater)
Was that the electronic version Munster theme Ed started to play there for a moment?
Hansel and Gretel (lederhosen and Sam's jibe again)
Night of the Hunter/Great Lebowski ("the Dude will NOT abide" Dean)
Jack the Ripper/ Jekyll and Hyde (Jamie waiting for Dean and walking down the alley)
There was the interview scene with Ed the projectionist that seemed so familiar I am sure he was channeling some old movie but I can't remember which one
King Kong (beauty killed the Beast)
Glass Spiral/Drugged Dean - Vertigo possibly or Farewell my Lovely
Blues Brothers (Dean - mission from God)
Sunset Blvd, you might not think that a monster movie but believe me Norma Desmond, was a horror.

I can't wait for the i-Tunes version to find more, I am going try to catch others I may have missed. Maybe I will dig out my old black and white monster and classic films and see if I can match scenes-

And Dean oh my - Dean was an outrageous delight, rehymenated - snort!!! His is antics can even make his brother forget for a few minutes and smile. We had a return of some nice brotherly interaction. We also learned some really interesting information about Dean's physical state, it is not just the hell hound's damage that was healed, apparently now the only wound he has is the burn from Castiel's hand. It was also nice to see a bit of where Dean's head is, he is cautiously starting to believe. Smishes Dean. But really Porky's 2 I mean any Porky's?

Oh and I loved Kripke and Ben's sly underhanded laugh at the fans - "It's about time the Winchester's got back to a good old fashioned monster hunt." Snicker How many boards have we heard something like that this season LOL But it still works on other levels as well, clever clever writing

Poor Jared

zazreil@aol.com — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:59:34 GMT

I hope his indiscretion didn't get him into to much trouble. I bet it gets him teased at least. He is so cute. But oh my -open mouth insert foot. I don't think any version of the TV Guide article is still on the web. Poor Pluto-boy

Zaz

Escaping Hell - A Visual Speculative Season 4 Meta - Spoilers only for Season 3

zazreil@aol.com — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:55:00 GMT

Even before the final episode of Season 3, I have long thought that Dean would have to have divine help to escape his fate much less hell; guess I was right, grin and wow wasn't Castiel a fantastic affirmation of my theory. What I had initially discounted was that the amulet that Dean wears. Since I had heard in a You-tube interview that it was apparently a random choice by Jensen when being costumed for the pilot, I doubted that it would have any importance to the mythological portion of the story. After I saw the image of the face in the last scene of No Rest for the Wicked my opinion began to change. But at the Chicago con I got to ask Jensen what the prosthetic he wore in that scene looked like. And he confirmed that it did not in any way look like a face. Whether the amulet still has a significant role to play is unknown but right now unless Kripke plays up the illusion we saw into a story line thread (hmmm could the amulet be the reason Anna hears angels) then I think the illusion was accidental. Still in case Kripke ever decides to use it I will leave the meta up as a record. I would like to thank shadowfax220 for pointing out the image to me at the Dallas convention and give credit to the Legacy site for the Making of "No Rest for the Wicked Pictures" and Super-Wicki for the use of the amulet image.

Clicking on any image twice will take you to the full size image.

Below is a screen cap of Dean in hell. Note the right hand lower corner.

I have highlighted the image in yellow. It almost seems to have wings. But on closer examination I realized that the profile actually looked like something I had seen before, Dean's Amulet. Which doesn't mean that it doesn't have wings, its just that wings are of lesser importance than the profile.

Next I took the side view of Dean's amulet from Super-Wicki and overlaid it on the image found on Dean's Shirt. The profile matches almost exactly accept for the open mouth and the horns.

From here I modified the amulet image to open its mouth and cant the head backwards on the neck. Empty spaces were filled in with patterns from the original amulet to smooth out the image

What I find particularly fascinating is how Dean's sweat corresponds to the amulet exhaling. I suspect this represents the "Breath of Life" as many ancient religions as well as Christianity have stories where a divine being breathes life into the dead or the inanimate. If, as it is theorized on Super-Wicki , the amulet is of an Egyptian goddess, BAT, whose name is a feminized version of the Egyptian symbol for Soul then that would seem very appropriate. Another possibility is that the amulet represents Isis. Isis in many images has both HORNS and WINGS and there is a suggestion of wings on Dean's shirt. She would also work well in this role as her spheres of influence include magic, rebirth, the womanly gifts and motherhood causing her to be be in direct opposition to Lilith the Seductress and the destroyer of children. Also unlike Bat who is all but forgotten the mystery cult of Isis lasted well into the 6th century and old images of her are still suspected to be in some European churches masquerading as Black Madonnas. Additionally Isis is known to have assimilated Hathor and her characteristics, who in turn assimilated Bat. Consequently Isis=Hathor=Bat would be a fair conclusion. Equally possible is that the face is the visage of an angel as not every angelic messenger is human. Cherubs have been described as having bull like aspects as well as human faces and Sumarian depictions of their angelic messengers

The only thing I couldn't explain was the horns until I saw this image on the Legacysite.

Note the placement of the meat hook and now compare it with the same image highlighted and a simple amulet overlay. The pointed end of the meat hook forms the horn of the amulet. Even the eye of the hook serves a purpose as it could represent the ring on the amulet.

The image in the last three pictures might not have seemed as compelling as the earlier screen caps, but at a distance the image does stand out as shown on another Legacy site picture below.

Kripke and the writers will take a random choice by the actor and a accidental visual effect and use it to further the story remains to be seen. Regardless the image is creepily accurate for all that it is random.

Where in Wisconsin are Sam and Dean? - A "Something Wicked" Meta

zazreil@aol.com — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:03:43 GMT

Whether you love John or love to hate him, his actions in "Something Wicked" are a fun topic of discussion and the source of many questions. Where were Sam and Dean while John was hunting? Why didn't he contact them or see them regularly over the weekend? Was John aware that the Shtriga was a potential threat to Sam and Dean? This purpose of this Meta is not to discuss whether or not John was a good father but to answer these three questions.

Most of this analysis is dependent on Dean's memories and how much of his memories can we take as fact. Unlike Sam who has a long term resentment of his father that probably dates back to the events in "A Very Supernatural Christmas." Dean in "Something Wicked" still recalls and relates to his father with a child's awe. It is more likely therefore that if there are any exaggerations in Dean's memory, they will show John in a more positive light and any transgressions by Dean in a more negative way.

So where are Sam and Dean while John hunts the Shtriga? Dean says to Sam that “Dad hunted one in Fort Douglas Wisconsin about 16, 17 years ago.” And later in the episode Sam confirms that indeed Dean’s memory is correct “I started with Fort Douglas about the same time you said that Dad was there.” And though none of this is absolute proof that Sam and Dean were in Fort Douglas, there are other indicators that suggest this is probably the case. First when we see Dean looking at his father’s research material on the case there is no mention of Fort Douglas, nor does his father mention where he is going when talking to Dean so Dean got the information in another manner, either a map or a town limits sign or even from the Hotel. In additions, Dean follows up his comments to Sam about when Dad hunted the Shtriga with: “You were there, you don’t remember?” Now we know that Sammy doesn’t even know about the hunting until about 3 years later so the most likely way that Sam would remember Fort Douglas is if he were actually there. Finally there is Dean’s recounting of that night of the Shtriga attack in which he indicates again that he and Sam were in a motel in Fort Douglas. This seem rather conclusive evidence that Sam and Dean were actually in Fort Douglas when the Shtriga was active.

Now that I have established that the boys are most likely in Fort Douglas, this still doesn’t mean that they were in harm’s way. If Fort Douglas was a large city then the boys may actually have been safely away from the killing zone. However from the list Sam rattles off, Ogdenville, North Haverbrook, Brockway and Black Falls, the Shtriga seems to prefer small towns that may not have as many resources to bring into an investigation. A hospital whose function is more focused on normal medical procedures like pregnancy, tonsillitis, appendicitis, gall bladders etc is not going to have the type of labs that could provide in depth analysis of the children’s sickness. All specialized tests would have to half to be sent out to larger facilities and the Shtriga as one of the doctors in charge could certainly control the flow of information. Taking this a step further and looking at the Super-Wiki Map of Fictional Locations it can be determined that Fort Douglass is supposedly located in Wisconsin East of Wausau , between Antigo (9K people 6sq miles) and Wittenberg (2K people 2sq miles) on Route 45 near Birnamwood (700 people in 2.2 sq miles) and Eland (250 people in 2sq miles) if not actually on top of them. This suggests that Fort Douglas is a very small town probably not as small as the nearby Elan, Hatley or Aniwa, each with their populations under 300. That seems far to small to successfully feed and hide a Shtriga who, as per Sam it normally effects “dozens of kids”. Such small towns probably don't have more than a clinic or town doctor. This would mean that the Shtriga probably would not have access to all the children in a centralized location like a hospital in those communities. This would make large communities more appealing and therefore I suspect Fort Douglas was at least as big as Wittenberg and possibly as big as Antigo. However, six square miles isn't much to travel if you can take a direct rougt and fly: which is very likely possibility as he Shtriga is shown in several pictures in Sam’s research as having wings. In addition we know the Shtriga can reach 2nd floor windows with ease. So I my opinion this information suggests that Sam and Dean were indeed the killing zone.

The next question to be answered is why was John gone and out of contact until Sunday. I think the answer to this question is a simple one, John must stake-out either the Shtriga or a potential victim to kill it. We know by the time John is giving Dean his instructions that he has pictures of the Shtriga’s hand print, he knows the type of creature he is hunting, and he knows what needs to be done to kill it. If he is at least as good as Sam and Dean, he knows that it prefers to attack children and siblings and that a local doctor is really the Shtriga. In fact I suspect that like the information on the Azazel, John is still carrying the information about the Shtriga with him rather than leaving it in his journal, eyes sharp for any sign of its return, which is probably how he knew to direct Sam and Dean to Fitchberg even before the news of the illness hit the papers. Unfortunately, all his information while useful for identifying the creature doesn’t help him kill it. So he needs to wait. until he can catch it feeding and that means the stake out. Stake-outs are only successful if you keep round the clock coverage on the suspect or potential feeding ground, if you leave you might never have another opportunity.. Even calling his sons could put his stakeout in jeopardy. Making a call 1987 would not be as easy as it is today, cell phones first became available commercially in 1982, but deployment opportunities and handset volumes were limited by FCC regulations until 1987, the odds of John having a cell phone were slim and the odds of coverage in a small town like Fort Douglas Wisconsin was ‘nil. So calling to check in on his boys meant leaving the stake-out to a pay phone or borrowing someone’s home phone. Consequently even if John was only blocks away communication and checking up on his family had to be minimal if he had any hope of catching the Shtriga.

Finally, did John know there was potential danger to his family? I believe so. He certainly knew about the Shtriga and there are other indicators as well. First his instructions to Dean seem to have changed in the 3 years between "Something Wicked" and "A Very Merry Christmas." Had his instructions stayed the same Dean, having made the mistake of leaving Sammy alone once would never have gone out and left Sam alone again as he did twice during "A Very Merry Christmas". That Sam and Dean were three years older does not make them less vulnerable to attack, 11 and 7 year olds disappear with terrifying ease all the time.. This suggests that there was something special about Fort Douglas, something which made John take extra precautions each time he left the boys alone Another indicator is Dean saying to Sam “No that’s not right she’s vulnerable when she feeds. If you catch her when she is feeding you can blast her with consecrated wrought iron, buckshot or rounds…..Dad told me, I remember…” The fact that John told Dean this information plus the fact we see John leaving Dean with a sawed off shot gun suggests that he was preparing for any eventuality even the chance that the Shtriga might find his children a tempting, meal.

In summation, I believe that the evidence points to Sam and Dean being well within the Shtriga’s hunting grounds and that John was aware there was a danger. John’s reasons and reasoning behind his actions, I will leave up to the fans.

Zaz

Supernatural Face Time Meta

zazreil@aol.com — Tue, 06 May 2008 05:44:59 GMT

Analysis of Face Time as a way to determine whether Kripke favors one Winchester brother
over the other.

Back in late January or early February of 2008, a dear friend who had been trying to get me to watch Supernatural for over two years had finally convinced me to sit down and watch the series. It took me to the sixth episode Skin to fall in love with the series by the end of the Second Season, 5 days later, I was a true fan-girl with all the plusses and minuses that entails. I haven’t been this crazy about a series since I first saw Star Trek TOS as reruns when I was 14. Star Trek is the reason I am an engineer today, which should give you an idea of how obsessive I can get.

It was after finishing the Second Season that I began to explore the Bulletin Boards and LJs and encounter the Great Sam versus Dean debate. I admit to being puzzled because I couldn’t understand why the Dean fan’s felt that Dean was being neglected when I (also a Dean fan) felt that he was the heart of the series and felt even a little sorry for Jared. But before I went on and voiced my opinion I wanted to check out my assumption and I was surprised to find that the Winchester Boys were very closely matched. I made my post about the results and then promptly forgot about it until I had the opportunity to read bowtrunckle’s marvelous meta: “Tension, Conflict, Motivation, and Plot: Why the Story is About Dean and We Do Know Sam”. I told her about the research I had done and she encouraged me to post my findings.

The measurement I used to determine which Winchester was the focus of the series was Face Time. Webster’s defines Face Time as the amount of time one spends appearing on television. Face Time is a continuous versus discrete measurement, so the measuring tools and rules I set reflect this. I also took into account that there were over 2000 minutes to view and though I am insane, I do have a real life that I enjoy participating in.

TOOLs:
The Measurement tool used was an electronic stop watch, the Bell Sport Timer.
Video source was Apple iTunes down loads of the three seasons as this gave me greater control over the video than what I was able to accomplish with a DVD.

RULES:
1) Face time will only be measured when either Dean or Sam is not sharing the
screen with their brother.
a) Sharing the screen includes telephone conversations
b) Conversations between doors and rooms
c) As well as voice-overs such as the exorcism in “Jus in Bello”
d) Or the brother is present in the room but invisible as in "My Time of Dying"

2) Exceptions to these Face time rules which would allow additional time to be counted include:
a) If the brother is unconscious or dead
b) If the brother is in their immediate death throws
c) If the camera is obviously pulling away to isolate the actor from the rest of the
surrounding events rather than panning to the other characters for their reaction as
occurred in “Dead in the Water”.
d) The final exception is if one of the Winchester’s is taking the opportunity of
being alone, although talking to their brother to engage in an activity that they
don’t want their brother to know about as in “Hell House”

3) Additional factors that apply to Face time:
a) Young Dean and young Sam count toward Face time as it is the brother’s time on the
screen rather than the actor’s time that I am counting.
b) Shape shifters count toward face time as they channel the character’s personality.
c) Possession counts towards face time as the character is present though ridden by a
demon against their will.
d) Initial recaps are not counted
e) Where ever possible commercial break blackouts (metal teeth chomp) are not counted.
These tend to be inconsistent in length sometimes less than a second other times a full
minute

Despite the rules given anyone trying to recreate the measurements taken will have difficultly, do to the fact that I did not record my exact stop and start points. This is especially true where the time difference between brothers is under 2 minutes. In addition, the time measurements taken are impacted by both by tool error and operator error. The Bell Sport timer is finicky in its response to button pressure and I as operator found myself having to retake measurements when I was distracted by the story. To reduce or at least determine the measurement error, the normal method is to take multiple measurements (32 is a standard statistical sample) to determine the capability of the process and its variability; by determining the mean, median, statistical deviation, Cp & Cpk. As, I said, I may be insane but I am not ready for the men in the white coats yet, so I did not spend time determining measurement error.

Even knowing the limitations of the data, any conclusions I make should still have validity. Errors that may sway the result one particular episode should smooth out some what over the 58 episodes reviewed, as timing errors should have a normal distribution and occur for both Sam and Dean both equally and randomly. In Season 1 out of 22 episodes Sam took the lead in 11 out of which 7 were conclusive. Dean took the lead in 10 of which 7 again were definitive. Though Sam is nominally the winner when the season is looked at as a whole I consider it to be a tie as Dean is slightly ahead in actual time on the screen. In Season 2, Dean leads in twelve of the 22 episodes and has decisive wins in ten of them; so Dean is the clear winner of Season 2. Season 3 is not over yet and the results are so close that the season could go either way. I believe that had not Sam’s plot been pushed out into Season 4 due to the writer’s strike, Sam would have been in the lead. As it stands the brothers are with in 3 minutes of each other and 1 episode for the season and so it is too early to really call.

Now it may seem that since Dean wins Season 2 that he is really the lead character in the show, but I believe that the show focus of "Supernatural" is more evenly distributed. Of the 2414 minutes, Dean has only 37 minutes more than Sam or 1.5%, of the total air time. On average that amounts approx to 38.6 seconds per episode. Hardly a conclusive case for Dean dominating the series, my expectation would have been too see one character ahead by minutes per episode if they dominated. In Summary, it is my opinion the Face Time results indicate that Sam and Dean share series focus equally.

Data can be found by clicking on the chart below:

So ok I am posting so I can get in to my lists

zazreil@aol.com — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:36:01 GMT

I am now on Great Journal and Insane Journal too - sigh

probably will never write anything there either

oh well

Zaz

I took the color meme

zazreil@aol.com — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:47:24 GMT

It looked like fun

And oooooo! I'm Dark Turquoise - Turquoise, Fuchsia, Red, and Teal are my favorite colors

Your dominant hues are green and blue. You're have good intentions and want to people around you to get along. Even though you tend to battle with yourself, you are very good at solving other people's conflicts.

Your saturation level is very high - you are all about getting things done. The world may think you work too hard but you have a lot to show for it, and it keeps you going. You shouldn't be afraid to lead people, because if you're doing it, it'll be done right.

Your outlook on life is brighter than most people's. You like the idea of influencing things for the better and find hope in situations where others might give up. You're not exactly a bouncy sunshine but things in your world generally look up.